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Orange Milk · Apr 28, 2008, 07:57 PM // 19:57

yeah, that build is old.

Bull's > Protector's

I guess it fits on that OLD bar, you just kinda play chase with your target and spam Protecrtor's to charge up your spike then pray they stop sometime so you can spike.

WAIT, nevermind, your on a Warrior, you can't spam Energy based skills.

Bull's is a fantastic skill to start a chain with while Protector's is good for playing tag. You want your opponent dead, not occasionally poked.

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Attack Chain is (Bull's -> normal attack -> ) Elite KD -> Crushing Blow -> Second KD or Mighty Blow.

That's a good chain there, cept you sneek in Flail either right after Bull's or during Crushing. At the end Fierce blow is good too, but yet another KD is always nice.

The OP says 2 KD's + DW in 8 secs, this is 3 KD's + DW in 8 sec's

Age · Apr 28, 2008, 09:34 PM // 21:34

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Originally Posted by Tyla

That thread is around a year old, and can you please give me a reason as of why Protector's Strike is better than Bull's Strike?

Protector's Strike only deals around 10 more damage.
Bull's Strike offers a 3 second "Get down on the floor and STFU!".

Sure Protector's Strike has an integrated IAS, but you get more damage out of Bull's Strike because they're lying on the ground and you hit them more, and that goes for the entire damagebase of your party.
Not to mention you can use it offensively and defensively.

That build is not mine don't forgot and it maybe a year old but I imagine it would still be usefull.I would think the reason why protectors strike is to protect ones self as the use of a hammer.I have used bulls strike and have never noticed a knock down and btw Griffon Sweep can do the same thing knock those target down although it doesn't.You want me to get the person who put together that build I will don't forget she was in JR's guild.I can not explain how you would use it.

The way I would but together a build is similar but drop protectors and but in grasping earth for a snare.I prefer Devastating Hammer overmost other elites even have it on my Thumper build.

Tyla · Apr 28, 2008, 09:42 PM // 21:42

Bull's Strike needs to hit a moving enemy, and Protector's Strike doesn't protect anything.

Bull's Strike also does a critical aswell, like Protector's, but KD's aswell (If you hit the conditional), which is a strong spike startup and anti-kite.

Griffon's Sweep is bad because it requires you to be blocked, and that's not going to be good if you're about to pound on them.

Plus Shock is an unconditional second KD on most Axe and Sword bars, just as Hammer bars have 2 unconditional KD's and Bull's Strike.

Dr Strangelove · Apr 28, 2008, 09:42 PM // 21:42

Protector's increases your DPS, bull's strike kills thing.

Age · Apr 28, 2008, 09:53 PM // 21:53

Well I guess that is the reason why.Yes I know all about shock on an Axe or Sword Warrior.I use a shock frenzy build in PvE even works wonders agianst the searing flames dijinn(sp).

zling · Apr 28, 2008, 10:05 PM // 22:05

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Originally Posted by Tyla

Bull's Strike needs to hit a moving enemy, and Protector's Strike doesn't protect anything.

Bull's Strike also does a critical aswell, like Protector's, but KD's aswell (If you hit the conditional), which is a strong spike startup and anti-kite.

both attacks dont automatically crit, they crit if they hit a moving foe as all attacks vs moving foes are crits...

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Griffon's Sweep is bad because it requires you to be blocked, and that's not going to be good if you're about to pound on them.

agreed

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Plus Shock is an unconditional second KD on most Axe and Sword bars, just as Hammer bars have 2 unconditional KD's and Bull's Strike.

actually only shock axe has shock. most other sword/axe builds dont have it.
and Hammer bars dont usually carry bull's, 2 unconditional KDs are enough...

Tyla · Apr 28, 2008, 10:11 PM // 22:11

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Originally Posted by zling

both attacks dont automatically crit, they crit if they hit a moving foe as all attacks vs moving foes are crits...

Actually, both of them do.

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actually only shock axe has shock. most other sword/axe builds dont have it.
and Hammer bars dont usually carry bull's, 2 unconditional KDs are enough...

I like running Shock on my Sword builds....QQ

And yeah, I usually use Bull's Strike on my Hammer bars aswell. 3 KD's is better than 2, and Bull's Strike is simply put the second best skill in the game next to D-Shot.

deluxe · Apr 29, 2008, 06:40 AM // 06:40

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Originally Posted by zling

actually only shock axe has shock. most other sword/axe builds dont have it.
and Hammer bars dont usually carry bull's, 2 unconditional KDs are enough...

Oh I get it, you only play PvE? Because every single build I run, I would gimp myself by not taking bull's strike. And shock is fine on sword/hammer too.